Originally Posted by
cencal83406
My apologies. I will point out that the specific statement I was responding to was not discussing that the rest was placed on a schedule such that it was known when a pilot was in their required pre-release schedule check:
”+1. The only thing I'll add is to be careful not to unintentionally acknowledge a 30 hour rest with a combined CNO call (legally) converting you from LC to SC. A couple anecdotal reports of a 'dual use'' CNO attempt.l”
It was a response specifically to the scenario of being on long call status and getting a CNO for short call.
You are correct though. There are two times at Delta you need to acknowledge:
1) rest assigned prior to release from a rotation (23.S.5.f.1.)
2) rotations assigned while on short call IN the short call window (old CA bulletin)
That’s it. Period dot.
Not trying to sound argumentative....I love to have the source documents to share with my fellow pilots and quote them to scheds when I'm arguing my points.
I believe you are referring to Contract Awareness (CA) 17-04 (16 June 2017) titled "Short Call Questions Answered"
I know the Sched Alerts (SA's) and the SRH are reviewed by the company so therefore they carry the same weight as the PWA....but I've never heard of CA bulletins carrying the same weight. So are CA's company reviewed as well and thus carry same weight as the PWA and SRH and CA's?
CA 17-04 states:
"In addressing the questions regarding assignment responsibilities, two important obligations must be considered.• A short call pilot must be promptly available for contact during his short call period. This means that the pilot must be able to answer or promptly return a phone call
or acknowledge an assignment via electronic means"
So is there anywhere in the PWA or SRH that is the foundation for that bolded part? Of is the CA the only place it mentions having to acknowledge a SC flying assignment?
I did find this in the SRH on page 109, Question 8 under the FAQ about Reserves section:
"
Q8. What if I am assigned short call?
A. Upon notification of short call, you may advise Crew Scheduling that you will be unavailable for contact during the first two hours of your short call period. Should you exercise this option, you must then check your schedule
within that two-hour period and acknowledge any rotation that has been placed on your line. Such rotation may require a report as early as two hours after the start of your short call period."
So this appears to apply only to flying assignment during the 2 hour non-contact window, not necessarily the entire SC window.
As I was searching the SRH to try to find an answer myself, I falso ound this on page 5 "When have you been contacted, a Regular pilot" 5th sub-bullet:
"who is awarded flying as a result of an automated PCS run, a Pilot-to-Pilot Swap Board request or a Swap with Friends request
must acknowledge the award and is obligated to fly the rotation; they will not be contacted to inform them of the award."
Since this is in the SRH, I would say this is a 3rd instance of must acknowledge
Again, not trying to be argumentative....really trying to learn the nuances and have the source documents to be able to back it up when dealing with Scheds or CPO.
Thanks for your time!