Originally Posted by
20Fathoms
This is just straight up false. Twice this year and an average of 2-3 times per year I have rotations dropped due to improper notification. To say flying a crappy 4 day vs staying at home for the same pay doesn’t have an effect on QOL is absurd.
Maybe we can trade it for a double pinky promise to document 23M7 instead of the regular pinky promise we got for batch sizes
. I’ve heard good things about SK, but let’s not forget he was involved in the batch size giveaway. If he gives away CNO, he’ll have shown his true colors.
Originally Posted by
20Fathoms
It’s definitely something we can agree to disagree on, but your statement that it does not have an effect on QOL is still 100 percent false. Maybe not your QOL but we’re a big group. I don’t commute but I don’t get excited thinking about what we could trade our commuter clause for.
In a more general sense, I don’t think we should be looking for things to give away. Whatever happened to no concessions? There’s a reason the company wants CNO.
In fact now that I think about it, the effects aren’t limited to just reserves. Ever GS? Both of the trips that were removed for me this year went out as GS. Maybe it helped your QOL and you didn’t even know it.
SK was involved only in the fact that when asked if unlimited batch sizes would fix the 23m7 usage, he said it should. The MEC chair along with C44 was looking for an excuse to eliminate batch sizes and, frankly, to get rid of SK because he wasn't just blindly nodding along with whatever crazy idea they put out.
To your second point, banking your QOL solely on a remedy for contract violations is short sighter and, frankly, ridiculous. It isn't even remotely relatable to "trading away the commuter clause." Yes, maybe you and a few others get trips dropped or 23m7 pay for the company violating the contract. The fact is, the company gets away with FAR more than they compensate. In the end, I'd much rather they just follow the contract. Let's say, in the fall, they realize they need to train their schedulers better and they don't improperly notify anymore going forward. Is that a concession to you?
I can't believe we have to have the same conversation we had in 19-23 that just because the company isn't losing doesn't mean it's a concession. Yes, the batch size giveaway orchestrated by DA and DH was a huge white flag. But that doesn't mean that trading a human leaving a voicemail for a robot leaving a voicemail for something valuable to the pilot group is a concession.