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Old 07-21-2025 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by JustInFacts
Hopefully this helps answer some of your questions.

In our first two contracts, it was stated that this provision was to prevent or delay a furlough. The mins were set to 48/60. That was it. No trigger, no exit parameters, no limits between the high and low lines.

The last time we entered 4a2b, we grieved it and the company got a partial win and so did we. The arbitrator ruled that the company was allowed to enter 4a2c, but they also ruled that there should be triggers and an exit parameter. They stated that if we couldn't come to an agreement with each other, then they would rule on those parameters. Hence, the SAM. We also added the line value differences fleet wide and a max pay provision because we had pilots that were MD FO's that were displaced to 72 SO now making 50 hours a month while 777 pilots and some MD pilots were making 70+ hours in a typical 4 week month. We codified the agreement in 2015. If the RLG hits certain parameters, they take 1 or 2 R days off your calendar. In 2020, pilots at other airlines were looking at something to reduce guarantees to avoid a furlough and were interested in our 4a2b/c. Then the government helped them out.

Yes, we either need to make it harder for the company to indiscriminately change flying, draft, and limits such as a mandatory buy up to average BLG in the highest paying bid pack if entering 4a2c and an easier exit such as 1 month above the trigger that caused the entry and a reset of at least 6 months before the trigger counter can start again. Otherwise, we should scrap the whole idea.

Thank you friend for a thoughtful response. So, the “SAM” was a Frankenstein created by the mediator? Not our Union or FedEx? Do you (or anyone else around for this) know how this was was justified? There must have been some rationale to use a “SAM” instead of just hours flown? HOURS FLOWN would be entirely measurable and objective. In the case (here we are) that the Company was being cute, and their Independent Contractors were enabling them, HOURS FLOWN would potentially avoid the triggers for 4a2, or trigger an exit from 4a2.
It would offer transparency for a provision that benefits the pilot group and the Company, without the ability to be manipulated and abused. Why Frankenstein?
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