Originally Posted by
HvypurplePylot
Who is screaming? Do we now just not challenge ourselves as a union to be better than the company? Or is just lockstep agreement with what the current MEC doing the only path.
The people who want the union to go back to “the good ole days,” a time when only the interests of certain pilots and the company were advanced in negotiations and anything that didn’t poll in a survey as a high priority for negotiations meant “make concessions here, they clearly don’t want to keep it anymore” when it really meant “we’re ok with it, don’t change it, fix the stuff that polled highest on negotiation priorities.” They are also the people who can’t find a legitimate gripe with the MEC/NC negotiating for the good of all pilots instead of just their small demographic, so they find something like FPL to attack them with. Those are the screamers.
If you want lock-step, feel free to fall-in for the march towards a CBA that benefits all pilots instead of copper parachute CBA for those about to retire at the expense of everyone else.
Originally Posted by
PanelApe
The focus on prior administration is a red herring. That’s done, past, over, finished…..the people driving the union bus now are responsible for what they do….right now. They are the ones charting the course of action and getting paid the 98 hours a month. Our expectation for them should be firmly rooted in current events and results. No offering up any justifications under the title of “Well what about those guys before that gave us…..” They ran for the position….they raised their hands to be responsible. Now….you own it. If it resembles a Drunken Lumberjack then what anyone did before doesn’t matter.
The focus on FPL is 1000 times more a red herring than the focus on how low the previous administration anchored. The damage from the previous administration is costing billions that the company gets to hold. FPL is MAYBE a few million dollars that goes towards those negotiating aggressively on your behalf.
You’re trying to shift hatred away from the company and point it towards the current MEC/NC which as of this moment hasn’t tried to bring or sell you an industry-worst TA like the last MEC/NC so aggressively did.
Remember when they threatened furloughs within months if it didn’t pass? They didn’t even understand the staffing/training situation of this company. Or maybe they did and they were willing to say anything to get it to pass.
Would you tell your new lawyers, advocating for a higher settlement than the botched settlement that your old lawyer got you, that they should take a pay cut because you did? How do you think they would represent you if you cut their pay?
So you need to ask yourself, who is your enemy? The company or your negotiating committee? The arguments you present suggest that you’re a management shill or plant. Management is likely ramping up their efforts to discredit and de-fang the current NC/MEC as much as they can, I wouldn’t be shocked if you were a part of that.