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Old 08-31-2025 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
I find B&G signal-to-noise to be better that most forums (IMO due to lack of anonymity), but like most things, ya gotta separate out wheat from chaff and that can be hard at times - both from active and retired pilots.

Pilots love sharing their opinions; some opinions are formed from actual knowledge/experience whereas others are formed from feels. The reader has to discern which opinions are more credible in any given scenario. Of course, how people communicate with each other can influence perceptions just as much as what they're communicating. It might (or might not) surprise you that some of the most...let's say "direct" B&G posters don't communicate interpersonally the way they do online.

I think the membership is getting chompy with contract FOMO, and combined with a larger societial loss of tact & decorum when in disagreement, we see posts go off the rails.

I might disagree with folks at times, but we're all we got and NOBODY gives a crap about us except us. Let's fight like brothers (or sisters) internally, disagree agreeably, and pull on the rope together.

<cue 'Imagine' by John Lennon>
Agree with most of what you say here. However, retirees making personal attacks against current members who are actively slogging it out in the trenches is off the rails IMO. Most recently having a retiree attempt to discredit a member (who has some real concerns that deserve to be addressed) by publicly questioning the legality of a recent leg that member flew is completely unacceptable and yet another example of the B&G achieving cesspool status. I understand that some of these guys spent a career building up the IPA and instinctively wanting to protect what they helped build. I absolutely respect that. But classlessly attacking anyone who dare question the direction we’re moving in is counterproductive. It really does feel as if there are a contingent of IPA attack dogs that will aggressively quell any dissent, legitimate or otherwise. This lends further credence, deserved or not, to the idea that the narrative is rigged and the EB is not interested in new ideas. I don’t think that’s really the case, but some of the more aggressive posters might step back and consider whether their tactics are really helping the union they are ostensibly trying to help.
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