Originally Posted by immolated

how were you eliminating IA calls before?


With current unlimited IA batches, sitting on hold for 30 minutes, only to see it go to someone out of order is a pretty big burden. Happened to me yesterday, again. No thanks.

Now, you can actually hold any of those, thanks to the counter. And it still costs the company 300%. Or they can skip coverage and use the method you want to keep, and pay 400%.


Good, let them. You're missing the cost of eliminating the GS trigger. That's a huge gain for us. The second order effects of credit surfers not picking up single time is going to be big if everything goes to QS now. Astronomical QOL gain right there if your fears play out. I would love to stay below trigger and pick up 2-3 QS per month and call it a day. That's not a senior game either, everyone on the list could do it thanks to the counter.



Several of us were engaging our reps in the last few months and knew changes were coming. See the other thread about bypassed GS. Lots of input was being passed.

Obviously none of the actual negotiating is done in public.

Maybe you were in the group wanting to sit and do nothing expecting a 400% or better concession in C26. I don't think that was going to happen. Waiting to do nothing while pilots were harmed by side-deals and out-of-order assignments would have put us in a worse negotiating position in the future because your average facebook pilot was desperate for a quick fix. The only people who wanted to keep the mess in place were the side-dealers, or pilots in categories not affected daily by this.

Feel free to engage your rep, this can all still be tweaked in C26. Next summer will be a great test run. The company has an even bigger cost now to not fixing their slow coverage process. And they're required to finish an entire step of coverage before skipping, so the process will be even slower. That cherry on top is a great bit of extra negotiating capital moving forward that I wasn't expecting.

Skipped coverage now costs 400% with no concessions, and we settled the sick call grievance in our favor, also with no concessions. I don't know what you were hoping for but that's one of the best outcomes, IMO. We're in a better spot for C26 and didn't even spend any negotiating capital yet.