Originally Posted by
GoodJet
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You do understand that including 2024 hiring requires including 2024 attrition right? 49 pilots retired or were fired in 2024. The total number for 2025 is 74 if there are no extras that will not be known until the January 1 list comes out. If you include both years we have only hired to replace 47% of attrition for 2024 and 2025. Perhaps this paints a clearer picture for you.
While it is true that during the past 3 bids the most junior pilot to upgrade went from 2007 hire (lol) to a 2015 hire in my base none of these bids were a reduction bid. So no junior pilots could be replaced. Both the current bid and the additional planned bid for 2026 will reduce LAX and SFO even further. Both of these bids will cause the seniority of captains to go up. I realize that this is a complex issue for you and difficult to understand so perhaps this will help clear things up for you.
It is important to remember that pilots can be displaced or downgraded during a reduction bid.
Show your math. Reductions do not change the fact that we are adding net captains. The same FOs that want to be captains bid whether reductions exist or not. If you understand math (complex I know) you'd know that reductions with a net gain in captains should not change that trend. Also you just prove the point that picking some random date in the past is a silly way to talk about growth/progression. Why don't you want to use September of 2021 as your gold standard of growth? Oh yeah, because it doesn't fit your doomsday diatribe. The point I was making is that hiring completely stopped and using any time during that 18 months is going to paint a different picture than if you pick a date before or after that. You choose to cherry-pick data that fits your agenda (and it's a weird agenda) just like you did with fleet count. You'll do the same thing you did with the fleet, you'll scream the same thing over and over again until it's no longer true and then quiet down for a bit until you find something else to take out of context and be angry about. It's old and tired man and nobody is listening.