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Old 01-27-2026 | 06:30 PM
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MudhammedCJ
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Originally Posted by flyguy81
Junior in base, senior relative to everyone else displaced (except ATL guys). Most Jr CA in DEN is a Oct '15 hire, making DEN the 2nd most Sr base behind ATL (most Jr CA in the company was awarded upgrade on this bid - Jan '18 hire - 1511 pilots Jr to the DEN CA plug). Most Jr. DEN FO is now an April '23 hire making DEN the most Sr FO base in the company (there's 1730 FO's junior to the plug).

Takes 48% system seniority just to hold DEN as CA or 85% as a FO. With SWAPA's email today saying it could take years to get back to DEN, the only real way back into a base out west as a FO are people willing to commute to upgrade (how many are really going to sign up to do a transcon commute to sit rsv?) or growth (which is only happening in AUS). As a CA - it's retirements, which are negligible when spread throughout 13 bases.

Company is telling new hires and interviewees they can hold DEN and bases out west shortly out of training. It could take years....especially since DRR doesn't apply to secondary vacancies (union needs to fix this....like yesterday). New hires went to BWI and MCO....likely to continue as people hired the last 2 years work their way back west.

They could unf*%& this pretty easily if they wanted to....
Commuting to captain after 6 or 8 years is better than having to wait for 10-12 years for first available. I know that doesn't make you feel a whole lot better, but just saying try to keep that in perspective and maybe it won't suck quite as bad.

In the meantime, it would be nice if the company would build some lines that start with deadheads for a while and at least split the pain between labor and management.

It would beat paying for moves if a bunch of guys took advantage of them.
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