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Old 03-04-2026 | 03:25 AM
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Originally Posted by FedUpWilson318
So 'just really that dense' is your answer...got it.



Ignored? No.
Read what you had to say ("Nothing to see here, pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!") and not convinced? Yep.

Which part of we've lost faith in BOTH "sides" of this union do you not get? 5 years of negotiating with this company who 'values our contributions', gives 'thanks for saving the world', gives 'thanks for all you do', etc. while expecting us to work at a 30%+ discount, abusing the outdated RLA, and cooking the books to force 4A2B/C while drafting/extending/revising without constraint. A TA so lacking even a busted union (loose collection of ICs) voted it down fairly decisively. At least 3 coups or regime changes in the MEC/NC. All while our real enemy barely disguises it's derision at our disfunction.

So I'll repeat, this time without the name calling that seems to offend you:


What you and others really don't seem to get is that the more you deflect and tell us the names don't matter, the less trust we have in the system. Which is too bad, because FWIW I like the FACT team idea, and like the presumably-unbiased and lack of used-car-salesman sales-pitches format.
I'll try to say this gently so I don't upset such a delicate flower.

You obviously didn't read what I said because I didn't say any of the things you suggested. I asked if there had been any bad information put out yet and whether or not you tried to get a meeting with a fact team member. The "fact" that you won't answer proves that you just want to stir the pot.

You say that you don't care who is on other committees. So, you don't care who is setting our strategic goals and policies if we are ever released to self help? You don't care who is on the P2P team who is responsible for providing the crew force with information and one of the committees that was used to build the fact team? Go ahead and throw a tantrum and continue to try to divide this crew force. It seems like you might be a company plant trying to get a few more years out of contract 2015.
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