Originally Posted by
dmhpilot
Longer answer. The two paragraphs have different triggers.
PWA 23.L.8
A rerouted regular pilot who is not scheduled to release within four hours of the scheduled release of the last duty period of their original rotation (the “time limitation”) will receive single pay and credit (and/or the applicable pay, no credit for a GS, GSWC, SS, PBSPR, IA, or IAWC) for the rotation as flown, plus single pay no credit for any duty period(s) that extends beyond such time limitation.
PWA 23.L.9
9. A rerouted reserve pilot who is not scheduled to release within four hours of the scheduled release of the last duty period of their original rotation will receive single pay and credit (or the applicable pay, no credit for a GS, GSWC, IA, or IAWC) for the rotation as flown, plus single pay no credit (in addition to any other form of pay for the bid period) for any duty period that extends beyond such four hour limitation and into either:
a. an X-day, or
b. a regular line day-off.
23.L.9 is not triggered until a duty period infringes on an X day. It does not matter if a break in duty infringes on an X day.
If the rerouted duty period releases >4 hours late on a LC day, no L9 pay is due for that duty period because an X day was not infringed by that duty period.
In SRH example 6, the duty period ends at 2059 since the DH was removed (missed DH). Therefore, for a REG pilot, the trigger is met because their regular line days-off started on this calendar day.
If you have the same rotation for RES, their day is a LC day until 2359. The removal of the DH triggers RRPY calculations but no segment was flown. No L4 pay for the duty period. Since the duty period was on a LC day, the trigger for L9 is not met until the next duty period. If say a segment was added, and that release was past 2359 adjusted for base time, then that duty period would trigger L9 pay.
Nowhere in any reroute language is "calendar day" mentioned, but you used it when explaining reroute pay. Reroute pay only deals in duty periods. Duty periods CAN exist for RES that infringe an X-day without going into a new calendar day(X-days starting other than midnight.) I don't want to muddy the waters on this though, so I'll agree with you that a RES in example 6 is definitely still not on an X-day when duty ends on day 4. And I know that the reroute actually began on day 4.
Here's what does NOT make sense to me though. I'm going to make the language more plain by removing the outline format and just read the sentences straight:
L8:
plus single pay no credit for any duty period(s) that extends beyond such time limitation.
L9
plus single pay no credit for any duty period(s) that extends beyond such time limitation AND into either into an X-day or line day off.
So check the logic for me.
L8 has only 1 requirement to pay for a duty period: >4 hours.
L9 has 2 requirements: >4 hours AND into X-day(or line day off).
So since we're chopping it up by duty periods, WHY is the REG pilot paid L8 pay for day 4 when the rerouted duty period on day 4 actually finished EARLIER than originally scheduled? THAT duty period did not pass the logic test of >4 hours from above.
(P.S. I'm not trying to screw pilots on L8. I'm trying to understand what's keeping RES from getting L9 here.)