Originally Posted by
N39E002
This is not correct.
The relationship the US has with the Israeli Lobby, the control and power they enjoy, is unique not only in the USA but the world.
The US-Israeli Lobby is nothing like any other lobbying group in existence.
I'm not here to debate whether this benefits the USA and our interests, but to claim the Israeli lobby is "just like any other lobby" is a belief based in denial and lack of awareness.
All evidence points that the Lobby has an immense amount of power and control on not only our foreign policy but in many aspects domestic policy as well.
It is true that not all Jewish people are Zionists and not all Zionists are Jewish, however there is no other example of a foreign lobby in the US that has so much control and power, nor is there another example in the entire world of a foreign lobby having so much control of another country. In that respect, the US-Israeli relationship is totally unique.
It is also true that Zionism was established as an ideological goal well before the Holocaust in Europe.
Originally Posted by
METO Guido
Clearly successful punching above their weight. Surprising what can be accomplished if you commit to something. The Asian world dwarfs all others. Bear that in mind.
All the above is true. They punch well above their weight influence-wise. Some of that is simply close cultural ties to the US, including holocaust sympathy. Some if it is a deliberate and far reaching campaign of influence and manipulation in various western governments (broader than just the governments actually). Probably some Venn diagram overlap.