Originally Posted by
goshawk
It is absolutely imperative we clarify that these are two completely different types of conflicts.
Yep, ALREADY acknowledged that. One is a direct action war, one is a proxy war.
Originally Posted by
goshawk
Ukraine was invaded by a neo-imperialist Russia, and oil and trade sanctions drove up global oil prices (worse in EU).
Iran has been launching ranged attacks at GCC refineries and sinching oil supply routes with threat of destruction to oil barges. These countries are retaliating with similar targeted strikes to Iran's refineries. This drives up global prices (worse in Asia) because of physical, nearly irreprable damage to gas producing infrastructure. Oil sanction on Iran have been in place since 2006.
If we can't agree on these factualy unbiased differences regardless of support for our attack or not there is no room for discussion.
Annnnnnnnnd you missed the point completely in the fashion I was responding to Turbo;
BOTH of these are/will be costing the U.S. tax payers 100 of billions of dollars.
BOTH of these conflicts will affect oil prices.
As mentioned, in one we're using direct military action to play whack a mole in an attempt to topple a regime. In another, we're funding a proxy in an attempt to bleed a foreign adversary dry/into extinction economically, and has been mentioned in the Ukraine threads ad nauseam, drive a regime change.
All in attempts to exert/flex our power in various part of the world and eliminate threats. But, at the end of the day.........
BOTH of these are/will be costing the U.S. tax payers 100 of billions of dollars.
BOTH of these conflicts will affect oil prices.
Let me guess, you have a Ukraine flag in your yard?
And about Russia being "neo-imperial", does that make the U.S. paleo-imperial?
Originally Posted by
AAdvocate
Yep, none of them complained about the so called "Putin Price Hike" (although most of the price increases, including at the pump, was really caused by the misnamed Inflation Reduction Act).
Good point;
"There will be costs as well here in the United States," he said on March 8, 2022.At a NATO summit that June, he told reporters that Americans should be prepared to pay higher prices "as long as it takes, so Russia cannot defeat Ukraine."
drivers can expect to pay higher gas prices for “as long as it takes” for Ukraine to win the war against Russia
- POTUS 46-