Originally Posted by
Freds Ex
Blackmail doesn't need to be pictures of a certain person (Epstein style). There is nuclear blackmail/extortion (Samson option) too. Then there's also just the inappropriate leverage that they wield over their benefactor - "We're gonna bomb them unless you bomb them first, and you have to do it by this day" and who knows what other threats they've made or insinuated privately. Donald is definitely terrified of getting JFK'ed or having his family killed for calling them on their BS.
None of that is "blackmail".
What you describe is more akin to influence, pressure, or even extortion. Blackmail has a very specific meaning, and yes it usually involves pics, video, or documents.
Originally Posted by
Freds Ex
IL fed the US all the lies about Iraq, claiming that they were capable of nukes, etc. The amount of human lives lost in Iraq because of that is over one million counting excess deaths. The US taxpayers also lost over trillion dollars, who knows how many lives in the US could have been saved by using that money domestically to solve issues at home.
None of that is the fault of IL. If they fed us bad intel, yes that would be their fault.
But Junior was pizzed that sadam tried to off his pops, US intel told him what he wanted to hear, and then congress went for it. Of course everybody was still very angry about 9/11 (if you were to young to remember).
The fact that we stayed long after the job was done was also our fault... that's where 99.9% of the casualties came from. And guess who was responsible for a lot of those? Iran...
Also Iraq violated the terms of their previous surrender by not allowing inspections. If they had simply complied, none of that would have even happened.
Originally Posted by
Freds Ex
There is little doubt that the intel they feed the US now may be hyperbole or completely untrue. Would it really be shocking if IL fed the US incorrect intel that led to the school in IR being bombed? The more Iranian civilians that die, the less likely the US is able to pull out of doing IL's dirty work, that's a huge motivator for IL to make sure that collateral damage is maximized.
That's some cool fan fiction. But not a shred of evidence. You can make up all manner of tall tales about the Evil Jewish Illuminati but for our purposes here you need evidence.
Originally Posted by
Freds Ex
Blackmail, extortion, politicians thinking that a million or two in AIPAC donations is worth squandering their children's future away? who knows exactly why.
Yes APAIC is a thing. They clearly try to influence us, and I don't trust the IL government but they're not blame for everything bad that happens. Did you hear the one about the mossad office in Wuhan
