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Old 04-21-2026 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Trip7
We are the highest paid airline pilots in the world. The company identified the Greenslip pay issue and paid it back promptly. Figuring out pay is not very difficult.

This woe is me attitude from folks making $300-500k+ to the point where you have to troll young GO workers is beneath Delta Pilots. You're better than this
No, you're missing the point. It doesn't matter how much someone is making if the system is broken and we're not being paid what we earned.

This latest pay issue took 2 weeks to sort out, after PILOTS discovered the problem and flooded them with pay inquiries. The company did not identify the problem before pay was sent out. The core of the issue is that pilot pay audits are not automated in any way shape or form, several years after we were told pay accuracy was a "top priority". This particular issue was VERY simple too, it did not take calculus to discover. If you pulled up your timecard next to your PAS, the PAS was clearly missing a line of GS pay that was on the timecard. You could write a script to check 17k of these in a few minutes. Why aren't these caught before they're sent out?

I've had 24 pay inquiries over the last 3 years, all of them paid in my favor. Some on the first try, some on the third try. That inconsistency is another problem, if the first look is still denying mistakes that are clear as day.

I've talked with plenty of other pilots who say they've never had a pay mistake...I ask them how they know...and they say every paycheck looks about right compared to the last month. This is a terrible method and often hides issues due to taxes, SS being turned on/off, reroutes, etc. On two occasions now I've offered to go through someone's last 12 months of PAS during cruise who swore they had no mistakes, and both times I found several errors they missed.

The biggest problem is that out of 17k pilots, how many of them are pay experts actually finding every error? Less than half? So how much money has the company pocketed that will never be recovered because no one looked?

The new contract absolutely needs pay penalties. Such as anything not self-identified and corrected by the company after a certain number of days pays x% extra per day. And how about every approved pay inquiry pays the pilot an extra ADG for their time. This won't even cost negotiating capital, because the company can't claim fixing pay costs XXX millions of dollars, because they'd be admitting to wage theft. All the gains in the contract mean nothing if they're not paid correctly.
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