Originally Posted by Hubcapped

this is the kicker. Im still genuinely confused where these pro war (prob anti war during the election but hypocrisy aside) think this war is going. Iran CONTROLS the straight. Period. Full stop. Theyve been goaded into a eureka strategic windfall moment of realizing that they can apply pressure anytime they want with almost zero (relative) monetary cost.

so the only way is to go boots on the ground to establish a flot/feba deep enough to allow us to set up an iads?. Are you willing to do that? Are we really willing to shed blood here? There is no out anymore. We completely blundered, and saying that other folks are being cowards for not risking their young men and women for a war WE STARTED is asinine at best.


iran is actively executing combat operations in the straight as i type this, but “we are almost at a deal” or “the war is almost won”……every American should put on their clown shoes because we are definitely the the #1 circus in town