Originally Posted by
Point85ToTheFix
that’s my guess because AS will claim to be a “peer” citing their newfound widebody and a couple of routes (Tokyo and Seoul). However they have historically been a lower level carrier and you can tell by the number of guys who left AS for AA vs the opposite. AS hired guys at lower qualifications and earlier in their career than AA on the whole.
Not really lower qualifications, but people who were willing to sacrifice career expectations for west coast bases (those go more junior today due to taxes/politics, but those of us who have been around remember the opposite). During the brief hiring frenzy, AS did have a lot of people signing on to get out from under legacy regional flow/metering restrictions, who would then quickly depart for big three (which was their plan all along).
Originally Posted by
Point85ToTheFix
none of this is to disparage AS guys but they have an outsized amount of longevity etc than is typically possible at a legacy.
That's true, just due to the historically *very* conservative nature of AS management, and less aggressive growth over decades. Some AS pilots claim they like that, but most of us just want to drive to work vice commuting.
Originally Posted by
Point85ToTheFix
a good example of this was the US/AA merger. Airways was able to argue a “global carrier” and “career expectations” pointing at a handful of A330s vs AA which had a much broader fleet and being doing oceanic for decades. I’m not making a moral argument here or saying what ought to be just looking at history and trying to apply those lessons to the situation laid out in front of us.
After having lately immersed myself in ALPA merger policy, precedent, and history I suspect that the two lists would be treated equally, without any regard for who had a recent WB windfall. Especially since the SLI process will certainly not unravel the previous SLI and segregate AS and HA pilots by previous career expectation (assuming the AS/HA SLI is already done). Both the AA and legacy HA WB slots will be protected in the usual manner and everybody else will largely be treated as DOH NB pilots.