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Old Yesterday | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by AAL24
Somebody probably used those exact words when management first started using regional feed. Allowing another US carrier to operate WB aircraft with AA passengers should be a red line in the sand. Ten years from now they could be flying 50+ wide bodies carrying AA passengers. Those are our highest paying jobs. Delta and United pilots would never allow such an arrangement. If we lose the Alaska WB grievance we are in trouble. There's a reason scope is Section 1 of the contract.
We probably won't be winning that WB grievance if we enter into a JV. So yeah, we're cooked unless we somehow manage to pull out a scope win in the next negotiations, which we are seriously overdue for (looking at our RJ flying %)
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Old Yesterday | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Not really lower qualifications, but people who were willing to sacrifice career expectations for west coast bases (those go more junior today due to taxes/politics, but those of us who have been around remember the opposite). During the brief hiring frenzy, AS did have a lot of people signing on to get out from under legacy regional flow/metering restrictions, who would then quickly depart for big three (which was their plan all along).



That's true, just due to the historically *very* conservative nature of AS management, and less aggressive growth over decades. Some AS pilots claim they like that, but most of us just want to drive to work vice commuting.



After having lately immersed myself in ALPA merger policy, precedent, and history I suspect that the two lists would be treated equally, without any regard for who had a recent WB windfall. Especially since the SLI process will certainly not unravel the previous SLI and segregate AS and HA pilots by previous career expectation (assuming the AS/HA SLI is already done). Both the AA and legacy HA WB slots will be protected in the usual manner and everybody else will largely be treated as DOH NB pilots.
date of hire??? Haha. No… relative seniority with stovepiping.
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Old Yesterday | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Point85ToTheFix

none of this is to disparage AS guys but
HaHAHAAAA.. With all due respect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Af-Id_fuXFA

Just call me Colonel Cornhole. I'm a DFW 777 captain and all you Alaska pilots are just regional level.
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Old Yesterday | 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by AllYourBaseAreB
date of hire??? Haha. No… relative seniority with stovepiping.
Yes, the bigger airplanes would be accounted for separately.

Yes, relative seniority matters too, I was in a hurry this morning and missed that part when I hit enter. But longevity also gets weighted.

But as I said, this is just my hypothetical guess. I also guess it won't happen anyway. And I don't care, with luck I hope to be done before any such merger and SLI could be finished anyway.
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