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Old 05-04-2026 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by emersonbiguns
Anyone want to share how the new NC is going to force the company to give us a contract with 'market rates'?

Explain how the union is going to circumvent the RLA?

What is happening is called capitalism. Frontier has no problems hiring and now that Spirit pilots are on the street, even less of a problem... Especially since our planned growth has come to a screeching halt.

Supply and demand. Simple.

Our last contract came when they couldn't get enough people in the door. It appears that is the ONLY factor for their decision to offer more money. Just look at WNs glacial negotiations, they only came around when their attrition soared.

Between the 165/169 burning the house down and NK kicking how many thousand pilots to the street? We aren't going to see a contract anytime soon, let alone one with 'market rates'.

Next thing I'd be watching for is management finding a way to pull the carpet from under the cadets...
This is completely correct - except for . . . time. Supposedly (believe it or not), the RLA allows for a provision that let's labor have the option of self-help. THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE ACE IN THE HOLE for all of labor. Now, if you don't believe that will ever be the case (as some do), then you're obviously beholding to your line of thinking above and, unfortunately, they system is broken and there really isn't hope outside of mgt good will.

I have been very vocal/advocating that we test that premise. I honestly want to know if self help is a possibility. We are the smallest major airline outside of Avelo, we have almost negligible market share and we have been in existence long enough to matter. If self-help isn't allowed, then that makes not only our but EVERY pilot's options clear.
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