It is truly difficult to have an intelligent debate with someone whose worldview is this hyper-partisan, historically and politically illiterate, and thoroughly brainwashed. Your arguments throughout this thread have repeatedly relied on selective memory, personal deflections, and an open denial of official historical records. Simply put, you are completely unmoored from reality.
Seriously... look at your childish posts. On one hand, it's cute how you want world peace, as if everyone holding hands would suddenly end global conflict. But when you spout dangerous nonsense about "leaving alone" a regime that has been the largest sponsor of terror for damn near 5 decades... the same regime that deliberately targets civilian populations and infrastructures throughout the region, guns down tens of thousands of its own citizens, and actively strangles international waterways... it is impossible to take you seriously.
You seriously appear as if you’ve never taken a single history class, and your entire narrative looks like a collection of far-left memes completely disconnected from reality. Talk about illiteracy, ignorance, if not downright stupidity. Once again, it's only because you're choosing to allow yourself to get brainwashed by hyper-partisan anger, rage, and fear-porn echo chambers as opposed to critically thinking for yourself and studying history.
Want a really small and verifiable example of just how dumb and historically and politically illiterate you come across? You may have to step out of your echo chamber, but try and compare Operation Allied Force and Operation Epic Fury and see what you come up with. Remember, in your world, Allied Force was just a "skirmish" while Epic Fury is a war!
Lastly, no one is trying to take away your right to criticize the current administration. However, there is a vast difference between policy criticism and your continuous, systematic defense of a terror regime. You hide behind the First Amendment to carry water for a hostile theocracy that chants "Death to America." You aren't even on the side of the Iranian people, who were literally celebrating American and Israeli bombs falling on the regime that oppresses them and guns them down for daring to... shall we say... criticize their government.
That's how you should know that you're on the wrong side of this debate. Whether you choose to admit it or not, we both know your entire stance is only because Trump is the one spearheading it. You are literally incapable of supporting anything Trump does because you're brainwashed and incapable of thinking beyond hyper-partisan nonsense. And that's the difference between you and I. Had Biden or Obama done this, I would have been behind them 200%. Instead, we got the famous "Don't." And that really projected strength in MENA, didn't it? Kinda like the "red line" did in Syria, or "it depends if it's a minor incursion..." in Ukraine.
Originally Posted by
ShyGuy
Kuwait is not the United States.
Skirmishes, with limited amount of U.S. soldiers involved. Not wars like Iraq, Afghanistan, or Iran.
Yes. Correct. But again, not wars. Just as I didn’t say the U.S. launched a war against Venezuela when Trump removed Maduro.
Yes, the rare moment of unity we had post 9/11. Still was an ill-thought out war. We wanted to attack someone, that ended up being Iraq and Afghanistan. Not that we are any safer today. 20 yrs in Afghanistan and today it’s still the Taliban in power. You have any commentary on the U.S. soldier lives sacrificed and wasted over 20 yrs in Afghanistan, now that we have Taliban there still?
Oh so it was out of benevolence we started the Iraq war?
They were militia who were dealt with and mostly eliminated. I don’t like it when any U.S. soldiers die. The WH estimate is 600 out of over 4,000 dead were Iran backed militias. My point is, it was dealt with when those militias were taken out. Or go attack Iran when our troops were being actively harmed. Not 20 yrs later under 5 different named reasons as to why we attacked Iran on Feb 28 and started this new war.
Or you could just leave the ME alone. Like what most of the world chooses to do. Weird how others don’t seem to be struggling or losing soldiers to any militant proxies in any ME country. Israel’s security should cost 0 US soldier lives.
No one cared about Rhongiya’s genocide or Chinese crack downs of the Uighur people. Thousands were slaughtered and we didn’t nothing. My view is a simple one. No more new wars, yet another ME war, breeding future terrorists, and starting a war after “obliterating” their nuclear facilities - any suggestions otherwise are fake news - the same WH source that gave you the 603 killed number.
My audience here is the one calling for nuclear bombardment to “get it over with.” Or more bombing to create future terrorists, so our kids generations can one day face yet another 9/11 type attack here. No thank you. I don’t want a part in which we help breed tomorrow’s terrorists.
It is NOT anti-Americanism to question and call out actions that the current administration is taking. To suggest so - especially as a naturalized citizen yourself - is shocking.