Browngirls.....you blinked.

Not trying to stir up a hornet's nest, but you bid to go under the currrent LOA. You made the MEC's point when they said "Subic guys will bid it anyway, they can't come back to the US.

I understand your points. My bottom line is that this is the tip of the iceberg. We already know that even if they fill HKG this time, they also have to eventually fill an MD domicile.

The company already knows what your price is (LOA I). They simply are doing it out of the goodness of their heart...or more likely they realized that some of the terms of LOA I were untenable. My "no" vote means my price is much higher.

I don't offer more for a car just because the salesman scares me into thinking I can't get a deal "like this again". Nor does an overpriced car suddenly become good business because the price is lowered slightly to be less overpriced. A bad deal is a bad deal regardless. Though you voted "No", on the first LOA, you bid it at the current deal.

By voting "NO", I am not hurting the guys who are going anymore than they hurt themselves by voluntarily accepting the deal that was offered (LOA I). The argument can be made that by bidding it in the first place, you undermined my ability to negotiate you more benefits. You set the market by creating demand at a price which I believe was far too low. Another dollar on the table is an "improvement".....and you'd still be working too cheaply. The LCC pilot who works for less money than TSA payscales affected the industry as a whole....there is not a whole lot of sympathy for their desire for a marginal pay raise because they "lowered the bar" in the first place. Likewise, you set a low bar for the future growth at FedEx.....essentially, you substantially underbid us all, and we will all be affected (damaged) by that for the foreseeable future.

I won't vote for an LOA just because it is "better than what we have now." If it is not good enough for me (my family wanted to go), then I won't vote for it for anyone else. If someone wants to go at that cheap of a price, I wish them luck, but as they underbid me, I am not going to lose sleep wondering if they'll be all right. I'm assuming you knew what you were getting yourself into. (I'd say it was "self-inflicted", but I'd sound too much like Albie's view on addiction)

Good luck....and don't take my response as a personal attack. I feel the same way about those who bid 777 without a pay rate.