Originally Posted by JayDee

Really? Wanna try to do something without the ramp or gates approval... You cant start an engine till they tell you... You can move till they allow it. You can board until they allow it... I would call that control my friend. Sure the Capt. still has the cockpit. But thats bout it. If they so wanted to, they could keep the flight crew corraled on the plane... and only allow the FO on the active ramp to do his walk...