Originally Posted by
DLax85
Wow --- where do I begin?
(...I guess I'll first start by avoiding the "Shift" key and "Caps Lock", but I digress)
Dude --- I think you misread the subtle intent of my original post and jumped in with guns blazing.
My point wasn't to side with the company regarding their slight of hand in negogiating A380 rates and then purchasing the 777 (...that's a clear foul, especially if they did it "knowingly" during negogiations)
Rather, it was to show that our, completely valid, argument on why the A380 (or 777) should pay more than our current wide-body rates also holds true for the 757 vs 727 transition (...because they move more cargo/more efficiently).
As you point out above ---- we clearly sacrificed improved 757 rates to get the A380 rates.
Why???
(OBTW, I recommend the "half-caf" while on APC
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Thanks for clarifying - that's not at all what I got out of your original post.
1. we are not currently negotiating 757 vs. 727 pay rates - that is a done deal - finished - over.
2. we ARE currently negotiating 777 pay rates - why? I don't know because that should already be a done deal too (in my opinion) - replace A380 with 777 and move on.
you said we are "accepting" (present tense) the same rate for 757 and 727 - as if we are currently in a position to NOT accept that 757=narrowbody - or that we are re-negotiating that along with the 777 pay rates.....we are not.
that's where I guess I was confused - your "subtle intent" was so subtle that it actually read (to me) that you believe there is some way that we could change the 757 pay rates now, after the fact.
others on this forum have made statements to the same effect as what I interpreted YOUR comments to be suggesting - "why should we expect anything more than current widebody rates for the 777?"
yes, I did jump in with guns blazing because of previous statements on here similar to that position - it infuriates me when people actually write/say/believe that and forget what we've already given up for the A380 rates.
so, if your "subtle intent" was missed - I apologize for misinterpreting the intent.
we just can't afford, as a pilot group, to allow ignorance of the facts regarding this 777 negotiation (what we've given up, and the company's bait and switch tactic) to result in another loss/giveback to the company.