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Old 08-23-2008 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Bond
It doesn't matter what's on paper. The reason why gojets will always be detested by the rest of the industry is because legal or not, it was created to lower the overhead by means of paying pilots the same wages for flying a 70 seat aircraft (the AA scope could have been handled with a separate certificate and single list a la RAH). When the pilots at TSA refused to accept the terms, instead of going back to the negotiating table Hulas pulled a J.O. and created gojets.

Folks who continue to take a job at gojets validate management's believe that the bar can always be lower, someone will do it for cheaper. Let's face it, the TSA guys wanted good wages for a 70 seater, and management offered 50 seater wages, any good group would turn that down. Enter the dreadful contract workers to substitude those fighting for a better contract and a better industry...gojet pilots.

We can go around in circles all day and all night, I don't mind! But let me once again remind you that both my company (XJT), and the likes of skywest make more money flying 50 seaters than you guys make flying 70 seaters....again congratulations on the underachivement of a subpar contract, and the absence of respect from the rest of the industry.


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First of all It probably won't get through to you ever but stop using the term "contract workers" it makes it sound like you have no idea what you're talking about. And second of all you're wrong, management didn't offer 50 seat wages it was the equivalent of Mesa CRJ7 pay. It's very ironic that an XJT pilot is defending Skywest considering what went on with the whole deal. XJT will be forced to furlough and reduce the pay rates so you're will still be in business for CAL rather than being bought by SKY. And I wouldn't praise a place that flys 87 seaters and who knows what next, for 70 seat pay. Yes Skywest guys get paid a whopping 3 dollars more CA than GJ for flying 87 seats. I do have to say XJT had great pay but if you're going to compre GJ, the same could be said for every other regional out there. Compare the CRJ7 pay and you will find that GJ is in the middle. As far as single list, RAH pilots accepted the deal to fly 90kpound, some say, mainline jets for 50 seat wages. They didn't have union issues, not to mention separate union, that is why they were immune from being crucified by ALPA. Also I find it very interesting that the two airlines that had problems were ALPA, where as a Teamster airline formed a separate certificate with out any problems.

Last edited by AirWillie; 08-23-2008 at 04:25 PM.