Originally Posted by
papatango269
What the heck are ground ref manuevers for?
Amen to that. Could you imagine trying to explain to students the practicality of flying rectangular courses

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Like PilotPip said, if you can't plan/adjust descents in various conditions, you have no business flying a plane. Besides, what is the point of having a constant descent rate if you are going to sacrifice a constant approach speed.
On a side note I would like to say thanks for starting a thread that lets us instructor types show how much more we know than someone