Originally Posted by
boilerpilot
Oh brother.
Did you also have to walk to school both up hill both ways bare foot in the snow in 150 degree heat?
Nope, walked or took the bus.
Originally Posted by
boilerpilot
Anybody in IOE for their first job is going to be overwhelmed, I don't care if you have 200 hours or 2000 hours.
I never said there wasn't an overwhelming load of information to assimilate... I was saying that teaching basic airmanship to new hires is not something we have had to do with more experienced pilots.
Originally Posted by
boilerpilot
then it doesn't matter the experience level of the student (with the possible exception of prior 121 experience)
Exactly my point. The days of doing work as a CFI, then light single then twin cargo, then 135 commuter or B1900 part 121 prior to ever seeing a jet aircraft prepared a pilot much better for the transition.
Originally Posted by
boilerpilot
you're GOING to find points to prove your point. If they haven't flown IMC, you'll talk about their inexperience,
You have me confused with somebody else... I have not stated that IMC time makes somebody experienced.... in fact, I think I've stated the opposite, that in todays training environment, it is becoming an irrelevant number.
Originally Posted by
boilerpilot
if they HAVE, then you'll talk about their lack of judgement.
No, I spoke of the judgement of intentionally flying in extremely low weather conditions when it wasn't required to do so.... A pilot can log a ton of IMC time without ever having to push the limits. The example I cited was one of pushing the limits by a comparatively, and statistically low time pilot.
Originally Posted by
boilerpilot
If they haven't had any emergencies, you'll talk about their lack of experience and naiivite,
It is a fact that if you fly enough, sooner or later you will have an emergency. By the time a pilot has the PIC and total time for 135 PIC they typically have had some issue or another where they had to use ADM and make some decisions beyond when to extend flaps on the downwind.
Originally Posted by
boilerpilot
if they HAVE, you'll talk about either their lack of judgement or say that it doesn't really matter. Which is it?
In the case I discussed, we were talking about a person with less than 280 hours with at least four seperate emergencies in a statistically very very short time period. The implications are obvious... Perhaps a few lessons in preflight inspections and attention to detail would be in order... and if not, then the decision making involved in continuing to rent from that aircraft provider would be a good question to ask. This was in response to a single posting of one person, not a general statement of all pilots.