Originally Posted by ⌐ AV8OR WANNABE

Sure UflyMike is TSO'ed but that doesn't mean much. You see, in order for the whole unit to be approved by the feds both Ufly Mike AND Bose QC2 would have to be certified TOGETHER - and that's never going to happen.

For one, Bose does not want to TSO a product it is not making on it's own (a mistake in my view).
However the bigger issue is that the FAA will NEVER certify a pilot headset that was designed for passengers and now with a modification can be used by the pilots as well. Their biggest gripe? You see, it’s the part when a Bose QC2 loses all ATC audio once the battery dies!!! I tiny blinking warning light will not cut it for the feds.

IF that headset was to revert to a regular headset once the battery dies (no ANR capabilities - in other words the way all ANR headsets approved for pilots are designed) it'd be be a totally different story however that's not how it works. This headset simply goes dead when the battery dies; in other words the ATC might be screaming at you and you'll have no idea. I know that those risks are very minuscule, etc, etc - does not matter - by default this headset is not a pilot approved headset.

Yes, thousands and thousands of pilots are using it every day and I did too for a while. I loved it and felt it was a great product and I still feel that way - however, once the feds came out with their warnings to the airlines and my airline sent out a Must Read Bulletin ‘reminding’ everyone that all headsets need to be TSO'ed - I stopped using it.

To say that it’s legal to use Bose QC2 headset in the cockpit simply because the UFlyMike is now TSO'ed is sort of like saying the China made Cherry pickup trucks do not need an approved from the DOT’s National Highway Traffic Safety Administration simply because the sparkplugs in their engines were previously approved by the US authorities.

I know I’m offend many Ufly Mike aficionados but I am yet to see how a UflyMike + Bose QC2 combination can possibly be legal.



I correct myself, after viewing Mike's website this is what I found:

Is an earbud required with the TSO'd version?

Yes. In order to provide continuous audio, independent of the battery powered QC2, an earbud must be used to meet TSO ANR headset requirements. We offer earbuds at a discounted price as part of a "package" TSO'd headset; we also offer them separately. The earbud plugs into the existing 3.5mm audio jack on any UFM adapter (except the Duo version - no longer available). The earbud(s) may be placed in the ear(s) or simply put inside the QC2 earcup. The QC2 continues to provide full audio plus ANR capability, so you actually have REDUNDANT audio, a first for aviation headsets. In this configuration, the QC2 functions as nothing more than a mechanical headband which happens to have audio and ANR capability when used in the TSO'd configuration.