Originally Posted by
Selcall
Pinnapple,
Learn to read better. I said MEC not Negoitiating Commitee. Second, Nowhere did I state that our Negoitiators for both sides could not have worked out a better deal.
All I stipulated was the political ramifications for both MEC's to come back to their repsective pilot groups with a negotiated list that disadvatanges the same people they are supposed to be representing is a very hazardous and slippery slope that neither side truly wants to entertain.
If you're gonna get nasty, Selcall, learn to SPELL. Here's your word list for this week: pineapple, negotiating, committee, negotiators, respective, ramifications, opportunities, apologies, and disadvantages. Write each word 10 times.
Now, what I said, and I'll stick by it, is your allegation that your pilot group would crucify your MEC if they brought a negotiated settlement because that would be seen as "caving". Yet, if the arbitrators decision is even worse than what could be negotiated, you think the pilot group will be happier; therefore, that is the route you expect your MEC to take. And again, that is exactly what happened at USAir. And again, I'll stick by my comment that that mindset is pathetic.
Your MEC SHOULD be able to make the case that they are NOT disadvantaging their membership, but rather advantaging them by bringing them something better than they might have ended up with going the arbitrated route.
Originally Posted by
Selcall
Now if you will take the time to actually look past this SLI and our own personal well being, and see what possible political ramifiactions a 12,000 member voting block has on ALPA and ALPA National then maybe just maybe you might see the light at the end of the tunnel. Our respective pilot group has the potential to be a force to be reckoned with for all our "Friends in Herndon". These same Pilot representatives will have enormous opportunites to direct and influence the direction of ALPA National over several years if they so choose to do so. At least we can come up with a better slogan than "Taking it Back".
I completely agree with everything you just said. Which is why a negotiated settlement is the BEST solution. We are much more likely to have a harmonious and unified pilot group if both sets of negotiators can come back to their group declaring a negotiated settlement as the best fair and reasonable for all parties. If you leave that up to an arbitrator, many more on BOTH sides will be able to say they were screwed, and you have a split group. Have you learned nothing in the last 20+ years at NWA? How's that Robert's award working as far as building a unified pilot group?
Originally Posted by
Selcall
My apoligies for not numbering the dots and color coding the picture. Next time I will make sure to do just that for you. There is my return volley across your bow.
And here is mine. I'm really not trying to be argumentative. I truly look forward to working with you guys, and we have a tremendous opportunity to be a global powerhouse in the coming years. And that can result in very good pay and working condition improvements for all of us if we have a strong company. But it will only work if we can get past the in fighting and be a unified group. It's just so frustrating to see the mindset that has developed on your property the last twenty years, and how foreign that is to the mindset on ours.
PG