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Old 11-19-2008 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Dan64456
I strongly doubt the nay sayers ever worked in an office job before... 5 day work weeks plain suck. The negative people fail to count the time for commuting / overtime / whatever as well when making numbers up for a 9 to 5er... I don't see how you say that you only get 30 hours off per week either... Here is the schedule of a regional FO I know thats only been working at the airline for less than 1 year...

Oct 1st...OFF

Oct 2nd
Dep..........Arr
LAX 1130...SBA 1219
SBA 1252...LAX 1345
LAX 1425...SBA 1512
SBA 1554...LAX 1645

Oct 3rd
Dep..........Arr
LAX 0950...SBP 1054...Could be my last flight to San Luis Obispo for the Month
SBP 1121...LAX 1230
LAX 1325...SAN 1427...Could be my last flight to San Diego for the Month
SAN 1455...LAX 1545

Oct 4th
Dep..........Arr
LAX 0800...SBA 0846
SBA 0917...LAX 1010
LAX 1130...SBA 1219
SBA 1252...LAX 1345
LAX 1425...SBA 1512
SBA 1554...LAX 1645

Oct 5th
Dep..........Arr
LAX 0800...SBA 0846
SBA 0917...LAX 1010
LAX 1130...SBA 1219
SBA 1252...LAX 1345
LAX 1425...SBA 1512
SBA 1554...LAX 1645

Oct 6th...OFF
Oct 7th...OFF
Oct 8th...OFF
Oct 9th...OFF

Oct 10th
Dep..........Arr
LAX 0800...SBA 0846
SBA 0917...LAX 1010
LAX 1130...SBA 1219
SBA 1252...LAX 1345
LAX 1425...SBA 1512
SBA 1554...LAX 1645

Oct 11th
Dep..........Arr
LAX 0800...SBA 0846
SBA 0917...LAX 1010
LAX 1130...SBA 1219
SBA 1252...LAX 1345
LAX 1425...SBA 1512
SBA 1554...LAX 1645

Oct 12th
Dep..........Arr
LAX 0800...SBA 0846
SBA 0917...LAX 1010
LAX 1130...SBA 1219
SBA 1252...LAX 1345
LAX 1425...SBA 1512
SBA 1554...LAX 1645

Oct 13th...OFF
Oct 14th...OFF
Oct 15th...OFF

Oct 16th
Dep..........Arr
LAX 0800...SBA 0846
SBA 0917...LAX 1010
LAX 1130...SBA 1219
SBA 1252...LAX 1345
LAX 1425...SBA 1512
SBA 1554...LAX 1645

Oct 17th
Dep..........Arr
LAX 0800...SBA 0846
SBA 0917...LAX 1010
LAX 1130...SBA 1219
SBA 1252...LAX 1345
LAX 1425...SBA 1512
SBA 1554...LAX 1645

Oct 18th
Dep..........Arr
LAX 0800...SBA 0846
SBA 0917...LAX 1010
LAX 1130...SBA 1219
SBA 1252...LAX 1345
LAX 1425...SBA 1512
SBA 1554...LAX 1645

Oct 19th
Dep..........Arr
LAX 0800...SBA 0846
SBA 0917...LAX 1010
LAX 1130...SBA 1219
SBA 1252...LAX 1345
LAX 1425...SBA 1512
SBA 1554...LAX 1645

Oct 20th...OFF
Oct 21st...OFF
Oct 22nd...OFF
Oct 23rd...OFF

Oct 24th
Dep..........Arr
LAX 0800...SBA 0846
SBA 0917...LAX 1010
LAX 1130...SBA 1219
SBA 1252...LAX 1345
LAX 1425...SBA 1512
SBA 1554...LAX 1645

Oct 25th
Dep..........Arr
LAX 0800...SBA 0846
SBA 0917...LAX 1010
LAX 1130...SBA 1219
SBA 1252...LAX 1345
LAX 1425...SBA 1512
SBA 1554...LAX 1645

Oct 26th
Dep..........Arr
LAX 0800...SBA 0846
SBA 0917...LAX 1010
LAX 1130...SBA 1219
SBA 1252...LAX 1345
LAX 1425...SBA 1512
SBA 1554...LAX 1645

Oct 27th...OFF
Oct 28th...OFF
Oct 29th...OFF

Oct 30th
Dep..........Arr
LAX 0800...SBA 0846
SBA 0917...LAX 1010
LAX 1130...SBA 1219
SBA 1252...LAX 1345
LAX 1425...SBA 1512
SBA 1554...LAX 1645

Oct 31st
Dep..........Arr
LAX 0800...SBA 0846
SBA 0917...LAX 1010
LAX 1130...SBA 1219
SBA 1252...LAX 1345
LAX 1425...SBA 1512
SBA 1554...LAX 1645


15 days off, and home every single night of the week. some WORKdays he can even sleep in! I'm up at 6:30 every damn morning, and always tired. Only get to sleep in 2 days per week, and never can sleep past 7:30am anyway because of being used to forcing myself out of bed EVERY weekday.

I still don't see any validity in your arguments either... no offense, but I'm just trying state my case here...

I honestly think (like the other guy said) that the people that whine never worked in a real job (aside from aviation) before...
That is a good schedule, admittedly. Mix commuting in and it would be horrible though. At my company, though, you'd have to be in the top 20 of both captain or fo to get a schedule like that. The rest of us get 11-13 days off.

Also, I have worked real jobs for most of my working life. And I am still whining....

You are looking at the short term. First off, good luck even getting in. I wish you the best. I am much more qualified than you and I don't even see an opportunity for me for a good long time.

Secondly, even if you could land a job at a company that would give you a schedule like the one you posted, you are still going to be dealing with the fact that major airlines won't be hiring for a good while. But, you might just hit it right. The industry is likely going to rebound. I mean, people die. There is bound to be some movement. The population is growing, so there will be more pax to fly. Someone will have to drive the bus. By the time you get the ratings and experience to make it, it might just work out for you.

I would never try to dissuade you. I am mostly venting from what my experience has been. Hell, in 5-8 years, I may be back in a growing industry and flying with you sometime. But, in the continuing story that is professional aviation, right now just plain sucks. For those of us who tried it during the last 3-5 years, we sort of got the short end of the stick. de727ups, hit it at the right time and many of us are green with envy for that.

I am going to go diversify myself in another field for a while. If it turns around......who knows?

One thing I can promise you, my friend, you do not love aviation more than I do.

Last edited by bryris; 11-19-2008 at 12:04 PM.