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Old 11-21-2008 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
It depends on a number of variables. The basic requirements are pretty straight forward, but there is a LOT to learn in a short period of time.

The big variables are the quality of the training program, the consistency of the instructors/evaluators, and how much help they will give you if you get in trouble. I have known airline training programs range from 1% to 50% attrition rate. Crappy regionals will usually have a higher fail rate when pilot supply/demand is in their favor, because they don't care about you and can easily replace you.

Indoc is pretty easy.

Turbojet systems are easy if you have an engineering degree or similar background, otherwise expect to work hard in systems class.

As an new-hire FO you may or may not have an oral interview based on the knowledge from indoc and systems.

As far as sim training, your background is a huge factor...

- If you are coming from a CFI job you are going to have to work your butt off. If the program is not stresful, you are probably not trying hard enough and will fail.

- If you have previous 135 turbine time it will be easier...you will be used to the pace, but there are many differences in 121.

- If you are coming from a 121 job in a similar airplane, it should be fairly routine. I did this once (same airplane) and I ended up with a lot of time to kill because I only had to learn those few things which were different frommy previous airline.

Bottom line, be prepared to work hard every waking hour if needed. Do NOT arrive at training with outstanding personal issues...attempt to get a deferred class date so you can resolve your problems first. The guys who are at the start of divorce proceedings always fail out.

Also be wary of taking a job at one of the bottom feeders which are known for throwing new-hires under the bus. If the sim instructors are outside contractors and not company employees, that is bad...they may view you as an annoying nuisance, not a brother pilot.
Rickair hit a lot of good points. As far as systems, pick up "The Turbine Pilot's Manual" or whatever it is. Gives a very good overview of turbine systems. While some things might have different names and be a little more automated on a modern jet (they use a lot of 727 stuff) it's basically the same. Read that and you'll be learning the systems rather than what they are. A pack is a pack. A hydraulic system is a hydraulic system. They all work the same basic way.

The comment about contracted sim instructors is something I don't agree with. I've been at two regionals, on two different jets and in both cases I worked with Flight Safety employees in the sim. In both cases, I found them to be very professional and more than competent. In both cases, they were retired/furloughed airline guys with way more experience operating a jet aircraft than I'll have any time in the next 20 years. Their experience was invaluable as I was adjusting to the speed of the aircraft. They had a lot of great tips and advice that I used on the line as well.

Just be ready for the firehose. And throw out anything you might have learned about a certain jet in the past. They'll teach you what you need to know and how you need to know it.
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