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Old 11-22-2008 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by The Duke
Rick,

I've read quite a few of your posts and you seem quite knowlegeable re: bankruptcy, etc. It's a bit frustrating right now because there is this much-talked about non-deferrable bond payment due, supposedly in February. I've heard it's to Bombardier for approx. $100 million dollars. As you've noted, we don't have nearly that much in the bank. Whether it's $50 million or $34 million, we're no where close to having the money right now and will not have $100 million come February. So what does this mean? Is there any way to get around a non-deferrable bond payment? (I strongly suspect the answer is no). Does declaring Chapt. 11 somehow alter the terms/conditions of the bond payment? (Again, I suspect the answer is no). If Chapter 7 liquidation is our fate, it would be nice to know that now so I could cut my losses and look for suitable employment elsewhere, rather than waiting for the job market (both in/outside of aviation) to get tighter as the economy sheds more jobs.

I've actually had a pretty good run here @ Mesa, but I'm not devastated by the thought of losing a decent job. It's all a part of life, as well as a life in aviation. I'm sorry our CEO has literally squandered the near $300 million we had in the bank trying to flex his ego in Hawaii and I'm sorry for the job losses @ Aloha that were the indirect result of our management team's lack of business ethics. Hawaii was a monumental mistake, my fear is the decision to go into Hawaii could ultimately be our undoing.

I'm not knowledgeable on the bonds in question. I have heard that they cannot be deferred by MAG but in business there are few things which are not negotiable, so the bond holders might agree to a deferment... if it were in their best interests.

I suspect it will come down to who the bond holders are and what collateral they have, if any. If they have no collateral, it might be in their best interest to not force mesa into liquidation, and pray that they can pull out of this mess someday.

If it is in fact bombardier and they have collateral (perhaps 900's) they may prefer to force the default, which will allow them to take their airplanes back for resale (900's have market value even today).

Mesa didn't treat me that badly either...for a while. When they eventually got around to abusing me, I quit. They will get around to you too if you stick around long enough.

LAMA is MUCH, MUCH better than where you are now. You should ALWAYS be looking for another job while employed at mesa. The current financial crisis might justify considering less-desireable jobs than you would otherwise.

GGood Luck
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