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Old 08-02-2006 | 04:26 AM
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MalteseX
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Originally Posted by Duke
2dots,

Sir, great advice and things to think about. I have definitely crunched the numbers on the retirement $$$ and concur. It is a good chunk of change just to be chunking it away. But here's my concern: what good does it do me if I stay in, retire, and die at 42 of a heart attack because I'm working 60-70 hour work weeks for 20 years. I don't know when you retired....but I'm not exaggerating. The work is still there and we just keep getting smaller and smaller (reference the 40K additional personnel the AF is shaving over the next few years during "force shaping"). I've heard stories about the days (1980's??) of the guys going to play golf if they weren't scheduled to fly. Those days are gone forever.....have been for a long time now.

Bonus is not a big deal but here's what bothers me......knowing that Joe Bagodonuts who sluffs off everything, makes everybody else pull his weight, and then puts an extra 25K a year in his pocket for the next ten years while his peers that are 1-2 years his junior get squat. The military needs to put more emphasis on merit and job performance and less on time in grade and a pulse. What's my motivation to stay?.....might as well role the bones, give the civilian world a shot, and if it doesn't work out, I come back into the military (NLT 5 yrs later) to finish out my 20 and retire as a LtCol. I know plenty of dudes that did just that (because of Sept 11th furloughs). Nothing's a guarantee of course and they could always say no thanks....but I've got a good record and I'm keeping it that way. I'm not closing any doors.....

As far as talking to my Sq/CC. I don't think he could influence my decision because he has no control of what I want. I know your raising your eyebrows... so let me explain. I am a school select for ACSC. So, I know where I'm going next. My problem is there is no guarantee in where I go after that. They could send me back to another FS and I don't want that anymore. 10 years in the CAF is enough (reference the deployments to too many sandy locations and being shot at). If I could just get that (school, staff, RTU, then retire).....sign me up and stick the bonus up their butt. I know too many dudes that were non-vol'd right from school back to the FS and that would kill me.... probably literally. My boss could control where I go from here....but after that, it's AF needs (It's really always AF needs...but we all know that).

Believe me....nobody bleeds Blue more than I. I love my AF. Service before self, Integrity, Exellence in all we do. But we all have limits......and the service before self in the military is being strained more than it has in a long time. [veterens....no disrespect intended....I know there has been MUCH tougher times in our history]

I know I'm a keeper and I know my boss would fight to get me to stay. That's what I'm afraid of. My heart and loyalty to my AF would get in the way, then I would end up staying.....only to die a couple years after retirement and leave my two girls without a father on HS graduation day.

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Duke
I did just what you are dreading. I just retired this past year at 20 years and 1 day ( I had to stay the extra day due to having to stay to the end of the month). I went through what you are going through now. I didn't die of a heart attack; It's funny that if you go to ACSC, it will be a break; you will be able to golf everyday. Then a staff job; then back to flying to finish it out. It can work....and the retirement benefits are great. So is flying for a major. At 42 I work only 12 days or so a month. 40K per year in addition to just getting off 1st year pay works out great (plus all the money I saved for the last 7 years or so).

I'd recommend staying ..... your situation mirrors mine; and I hated every minute of it... just kidding (it was a love/hate)... In fact your post sounded like a conversation I had 7 years ago; heck it was almost a transcript if it were taped.

You have to do what's best for you. It worked out great for me to stay in ....

Just my .02.....
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