People will go to whom ever is hiring, no one except for you look at union contract negotiations to determine where to go. Except for the hand full of the 05 guys some of whom have moved on, most are union supporters at GJ, they like the place and it isn't any worse than any other regional. Most have nothing to do with TSA 05 and frankly do not care. You're talking about something that is meaningless and won't get you anywhere. If what you are saying is true that GJ is willing to fly cheaper and are hampering your negotiations, then Hulas would have transfered all of TSA to GJ yesterday. GJ is separate from TSA, separate union and separate contract. Instead of hating, do something constructive like trying to gain some positive relation with your management. There is something seriously wrong when it takes almost 3 years to negotiate a crappy regional contract, you might want to hire the Mesa mec to speed things along.