Seems like we as pilots (myself included) come across as more juvenile then professional sometimes. Is it because some have never learned to converse outside the cockpit? Just a thought

 

the NYSE has postponed all delistings until the economy recovers. Mesa is traded on the NASDAQ and they havent said much. Basically Mesa can and will appeal the decision and it will get dragged out. No one knows how long but the bad economy will be playing towards Mesa's case.

Heres an article about another company that was facing delisting and how it works. Delisting Detailed: What It Takes to Get the Boot From an Exchange | Dear Dagen | Financial Articles & Investments News | TheStreet.com

""The company(NOT MESA) is working cooperatively with the Nasdaq staff and will request a hearing with the Nasdaq Listing Qualifications Panel. As a result of this hearing, any action by the Nasdaq to delist the Company's common stock will be stayed pending a decision by the Nasdaq Listing Qualifications Panel," the release says."

 

I wish I had some NO MESA and NO JO stickers left over from AERO2003

 

Seriously, can we please ignore this guy? He's tried desperately and failed at making a coherent argument and now I'm pretty convinced he's just trying to annoy everyone. Let him say what he wants but ignore it and keep on subject.

Some of these posts are getting a little out of hand. Keeping your ballot receipt with you at all times? That's just silly. This was a democratic process and although I don't agree with the majority on this one, they were the majority and we need to respect that. It is absurd to think someone would deny a fellow pilot a jumpseat based on how they voted. Are we professionals or vengeful poor losers? What's done is done and we need to look forward to the next battle. Stickers are a non-intrusive and light hearted way of making a statement and I see nothing wrong with those, but to deny a jumpseat or otherwise disrespect someone based on how they voted in a democratic vote is anti-democratic and unprofessional. Do I think those who voted yes, made the right choice? No. Do I think they deserve to be punished for it? No, not at all. I'll continue to try to make this place a decent place to work as long as I'm here and will be even more vocal about key issues during the next round of negotiations, but for now let's stay professional and respect the decision.

 

I echo the sentiments of turbofan, Winglet and others. Some of us within and without Mesa are disappointed at the result, but that is democracy. The thing I find most disappointing is the high number of non-voters.

Talk of denying jumpseats and other punishments keeps pilots at each other's throats. While we fight each other, the Man laughs.

In discussing the TA with my fellow MAG pilots a few themes repeated. Some felt that it was a pretty good deal for the times we are in. Others felt the lack of percentage pay raises required rejection. Many were skeptical that the company would abide by the language concerning scheduling and felt the TA left them too much wriggle room. I completely understand how most of the pilots who have been here awhile feel the company has completely broken their trust. The close vote on the TA reflects this.

Hopefully in six months all of us will look back and say that the new contract has brought at least some improvement.

The Dash Whisperer

 

Having worked for Mesa in the past, this does not surprise me one bit. The MAG ALPA MEC has done it again --> dropped the ball. The first proposal was rejected before it was even sent to the pilot group. The MEC then decided to take it back to the company to try to "sweeten the pot". They conducted numerous road shows with their propoganda stating PBS will be a good thing for all, regardless of the language (or lack there of). Ignorant junior captains and desperate FOs saw 11 days off for line holders / reserves and a 2% raise for FOs starting in January 2010 (only equates to ~50-60 cent raise) and began to salivate at the mouth. The MAG MEC stated, "Our MEC and management are in agreement and you will just have to trust them{company} regarding the language." Trust the company...then why do they need a union, let alone alpa. Unfortunately, those junior captains and FOs will soon learn that the MAG MEC once again let them down as downgrades will begin in Jan-Feb and more furloughs soon after. For those 400 that voted no, keep fighting the good fight. For those 418 or so that voted yes, be sure to sport your "I was once again dooped by the MAG MEC" sticker! And for those ~200 pilots that did not vote have no right to complain!

 

The no shows weren't against the TA otherwise they would have voted, they only had like two weeks to make up their mimd. So I think it's fair to say the pilot group wasn't that divided considering 20% didn't vote and the other half and change voted for the TA. Troubling.

 

I strongly encourage everyone to take BURflyer's advice and search HIS past GoJet threads. Pre-4 months ago, all he did was continually bash Gojet's pilots. They were the scum of the earth in his eyes. Brining down the industry. When he got furloughed HE THEN APPLIED TO GOJET. When people called him on it he changed the subject REALLY quick. Or ignored them.

HYPOCRITE

I WOULD BET MY CAREER EARNINGS THAT A HYPOCRITE SUCH AS THIS ALSO APPLIED TO MESA AND WOULD BE THERE HAD GOJET NOT HIRED HIM FIRST.

Burflyer stop throwing stones. You have a severe inferiority complex. Something that needs professional attention to cure you, not bashing others on an anonymous internet board.

 

Why does he shift blame to mesa? It's really quite simple he is embarassed by who he works for. If he can make somenone else look worse than himself then perhaps he can feel better about his situation.

I don't care who a guy works for it's really quite childish all the bottom feeder this and bottom feeder that on these forums. What other industries are like this? Ofttimes as pilots we act like a bunch of hyena's fighting over scraps that the lions left behind seriously wake up people. Until everyone is united then "the market will bare what the market can bear."

Final thought has anyone ever thought maybe alpa prefers to have lower paid regionals. Thinking that somehow it allows the legacy guys to get paid more off the backs of the RJ drivers.

 

Off topic personal attacks. Thread closed.