I used to throw bags on the ramp for Mesaba in Dtw back in the day. There aren't enough people working there for one. 5 people 4 gates for example. After the first winter, my seniority went to the top 20. No one like working outside in the winter elements. Everone quit over the winter. On the ramp and gate, no one cared which company, 9e or xj, needed service - Poor service for everyone. I remember seeing airplanes out there for 40 minutes, but there were not enough rampers to go around. They hire at 8-something an hour now. The people I worked with were most interested in avoiding work at all cost... Pretty sure not much has changes