Old 12-25-2008, 09:20 AM
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Jetjok
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Originally Posted by Gunter View Post
How 'bout accidents where the crew continued, legally mind you, and subsequently crashed when they could have stopped??

I admit standardization is important, in both the method and terminology. So important that the system as implemented will save lives and is superior. No argument there. You are correct, there is no grey area in that system. Following the rules will in almost all cases save lives and equipment.

But you've continued further and made more absolute statements. No methodology is perfect in all situations. There is a compromise in certain conditions.

In all likelihood, modern pilots will never have a situation that encourages a stop above V1. So the point is probably moot. But that does not mean, for example, a 757 on a 12K runway at low elevation in cool weather can't stop above V1 and stop safely.

Never say never.
Gunter,

We're taught NEVER make the decision to abort after V1. In the simulator, if you do it, you will surly end up off the end of the runway, and I don't care if you're an empty MD-11 or Airbus, both of which have great auto-brakes and powerful spoilers/reversers. You will end up off the end, if for no other reason than the sim instructor wants to make the point that you NEVER abort after V1. Having said that, as an example, if you were flying an A-300 and after V1 you lost both engines, well...... you'd probably try for a stop, and rightly so. But, in a "normal" situation, with at least one engine performing correctly, it's best to get it in the air and sort it out then. "Modern" pilots, who have gone through a "modern" flight school, will probably NEVER make the decision to abort above V1, in a "normal" situation. Thankfully.

JJ

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