Originally Posted by
FR8Hauler
Jack is not perfect. None of us are. He looked out for me when I needed it in the past. I think he is a good man, sometimes he says things in the heat of battle that gets him in trouble. I have been known to do that myself from time to time.
I'm willing to make allowances for heat of the battle mistakes. I could have accepted that as an excuse for sending the Captain who bumped a scheduler from the jumpseat an email telling him that he hoped the scheduler would get the opportunity to pay him back. It was NOT an excuse for the followup e-mail saying he meant every word.
This was not heat of the battle. This was a meeting that he called, printed on the schedules of the First Officer Flexes. He had plenty of time to prepare his remarks for the meeting - - HE called it.
Originally Posted by
fecav8r
man you really like to pick nebulus things out of the entire package. I don't know if I think FO's as flex is a good job either. fact of the matter is there are still fo's as flexes so all he did was express his feelings, right? I guess that's a bad thing, letting people know where you stand on an issue
Nebulus? It wasn't a bit
nebulous to the First Officer Flex Instructors who had been summoned to Cheever's conference room to receive their tail-chewing from the System Chief Pilot. Did I mention it was a room full of First Officer Flex Instructors?
Oh, he was quick to admit the training he had JUST completed in the MD-11, almost exclusively by First Officer Flex Instructors, was by far the best he had ever received. He just thought the whole concept sucked. He thought it made for confusion about Captain's authority. Gimme a break. If you're in the Sim, everyone knows the guy in the left seat is the Captain, the guy in the right seat is the First Officer, and the guy pushing the buttons in the back is the Instructor. Who has trouble figuring THAT one out?
From that point forward, First Officer Flex instructors were prohibited from administering certain events. A few weeks later, 6 MD-11 First Officer Flexes were returned to the line, some with nothing more than an email as notification. Ironically, the Chief of MD-11/MD-10 Training was himself a First Officer. Naturally, none of the FOs returned to the line were senior to him.
Yes, there are FO Flexes now -- after they figured out they can't get enough Captains to volunteer to do the job. That doesn't change the fact that JL did a bit more than just express his feelings about the matter.
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