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Old 01-26-2009 | 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by NoyGonnaDoIt
Ditto, with a caveat- the one covered in part by rickair's last sentence:

There are cases in which a pilot has been violated on careless/reckless grounds for flying in the clouds in Class G airspace when the flight has a potential impact on aircraft in controlled airspace. Probably the most well known is Administrator v Murphy.

There's a good chance that in the arguments you've heard on this someone mentioned the case. Some people point to it as making all Class G IFR flight careless and reckless under 91.13(a) unless it is connected to an IFR flight plan; others read it as making Class G IFR flight careless and reckless under certain circumstances.
This was specific to a very brief flight which started in class G and quickly entered controlled (E) airspace. The problem here was that the pilot probably entered class E without cloud clearance and definitely without ATC clearance. Sounds reckless to me.

In alaska people fly around all day in class G without ATC clearance...but they don't enter controlled airspace.
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