Wasn't arguing your point, more of a general comment after reading many posts and flying the line listening to many complaints. There are some guys that are so angry at the ND's. I have 25 years to go, how can I possibly predict that I will be were I need to be in 25 years. For many, hopefully flying past 60 is not a requirement or even option for them. I was just making the point that guys are very quick to celebrate their current status/situation in life and not always think there are others not as fortunate due to bad luck/timing/decisions. Pride comes before the fall ...