Originally Posted by
Blkflyer
Comair dont allow the FMS for Departures cause they are too Cheap to equip all the aircraft with GPS thus the Slant KILO on a ton of their aircraft we all know that if you get a takeoff at KK when you press the to/to the FMS will update and the aircraft will think its at the end of the Runway...ok I digress as far as Tower Being Busy JFK ATC are some of the BEST controllers anywhere on this planet.. Remember the Blue Grass Airport was not Busy at all and we all Lost some Great People that day for what ever reason, everytime I read the Transcript for 191 it sends Chills down my spine cause it could have been anyone of us speaking of Mistakes I dont know how many times someone have saved my behind or I saved theirs the point is we dont know what happen if anything at JFK and when we do it should not matter who the Guilty Parties are what should matter is that we learn from it..
Yes, and by reading the NTSB reports or hearing the actual tape, a pilot can learn from other peoples mistakes. I was asking if anyone heard of anything on this incident. If anyone knew a place that one could find out what happened, then I would have read it or listened and learned what happened and that was my goal.
I know that JFK is busy and the controllers are the best, but EVERYONE makes mistakes, especially under a heavy work load such as the international push (which is the time this occurred). If you have been in JFK a lot, you have surely heard a controller make a mistake. Especially the ground controllers that have to deal with Olympic, Freedom, Saudi, Iberia, TAM, and other non-English speaking crews every day. The controllers earn their paychecks there every second that they work.