Originally Posted by
250 or point 65
and ive got 3 words for that....Radar Contact Lost. Are you gonna rely on BBF airport to have radar coverage? Not saying that you have to hold, but a hold as a procedure turn is not outside the realm of realistic possibilities.
As instructors, we need to constantly be training for the absolute worst case scenario. This not only makes a real emergency much more manageable, but also teaches decision making skills. Think Sully could do a PP hold if it were necessary...probably.
#1 on Radar Contact Lost: Are you serious? In that event, I really doubt controllers are going to "play" that game. Then all you do is call for an emergency. If you do this in the Sim, you are going beyound what is reasonable. I just don't see this being realistic unless you were already in an area of lacking coverage. But in this same situation, the controllers would give notice of this, and I would imagine try to see if A. you're comfortable w/o their help, or B. Vector and/or climb you so they can get you where they will see you to XXX airport.
#2 on Worst Case Scenarios: I agree to an extent. I've never seen an airplane that's lost all gyro's(air driven) and it's electrical, plus down to one com/nav. So there is a limit on what should be failed at times too IMO. It's self-control on the instructors part. Now if our Ace student gets cocky, or is really just that good and needs a good challenge, then it's time to add things on, but just loading someone up out of the blue doesn't teach them much if they haven't learned the basic's already.
#3 If Sully had to hold PP in an Airbus, I'd feel sorry for him, because it'd be his 2nd worst day in flying! Transition him back to a 6-pack airplane, I don't know, is he current in them, or has he only flown glass in the last umpteen years? I'm sure at one time he was very current in that regard