Originally Posted by
rickair7777
We are trained to react to the shaker, not the pusher...the shaker is a warning of an imminent stall, and most turbine airplanes can power out of that without losing altitude. They train on us the assumption that the most likely scenario is a shaker, and that we will not get to a real stall.
Statistically this is not an unreasonable approach...there are more shaker activations than pusher activations (I even had a shaker myself as NFP, with 30 hours in a turbojet).
If you go through the shaker and get the pusher, you would then need to fall back on basic flying skills.
I've never heard of ANYONE getting the pusher, even in the sim. We've all gotten the shaker before. From the pitch attitudes reported by the NTSB though, it honestly wouldn't surprise me if the pusher was activated at some point. NOT blaming the pilots at all here, just saying there were some "HOLY CRAP" pitch attitudes observed by the FDR, and I honestly don't know how those would have come about unless something went horribly wrong.