Originally Posted by
eaglefly
Just throwing this out there, but as the airplane slows to about 135 knots with the A/P trying to hold altitude, the shaker goes off (A/P disconnect) and full power is applied. The airplane is now trimmed to hold 135 knots.
Other Q400 drivers have said this airplane is loaded with excess power and with the aircraft trimmed to hold 135 knots and full power is it possible it could pitch itself up to 31 degrees and actually power itself into a departure stall that was too rapid and deep for the pusher to prevent ?
Just something to think about. Personally I still believe ice played a part in this accident.
That's a very good question, but I think most people would agree with me on this ... and I take this response from my experience recovering from unusual attitudes in the sim...
If you were trimmed out for 135kts and applied full power, you're correct, the plane would act like a rocket and want to go pretty much straight up ... but that's where your stick/rudder skills come into play. You would immediately notice that and push forward on the yoke as much as it took to keep the nose down while trimming it out. So, in answer to your question, it could have, yes, but I highly doubt it. Now, I don't know how thick the ice was either, he may not have had a full chance to react before going into a departure stall ... WAYYY too many things to consider at this point ... which leads me to say this ...
I agree with everyone here, please, let the NTSB do their work and figure out what happened on this aircraft. We are all speculating, and there's nothing wrong with friendly and healthy speculation and learning more about aerodynamics, but let's keep it to that and not let the media get to us too much. I know all of our tempers are flaring at the moment and would like nothing more than to beat the living pulp out of some of these guys/gals. Let's just do out best to keep cool heads and discuss friendly speculation and spread our knowledge base to current and future pilots
