Originally Posted by
deadstick35
What you are describing is an elevator trim stall. The 172 has a conventional tail that is in the propwash (and contributes to the pitch-up moment you mentioned), but one of the characteristics of the T-tail design
is that it gets the horizontal stabs and elevators out of of it.
Very true. My point wasn't to be that detailed it was more along the lines of aircraft size doesn't matter. To muscle any aircraft from a trimmed speed is going to be extremely hard if not impossible.