Originally Posted by
Lear25D
Sabre Driver
Yes the math is a very easy way to come up with the rest time that you are suggesting. The math is simple and not common sense view and body clock adjustments that don't normally take place.
The reduced rest guys on these assignments I assure you try to sleep when they are released first thing in the morning but will only average on a good day 4 hrs of sleep. I guarantee these guys would get 8 hrs of sleep if their body would actually adjust. And the lunch break at midnight is simplistic view as well.
I guess somebody could pop some pills to get more sleep but that would not be wise.
I feel for the reduced rest and midnight lunch guys and gals.
Having done these assignments I give them a hell of alot of credit for pulling it off without major incident.
You both make good points.
For myself, I love doing stand up overnights. The trick for me is to not drink coffee or caffeine, and sleep as soon as I get home in the morning. I can see that this doesn't work for everybody. Stand ups should be voluntary. At my airline (Comair) standups go very senior.
I would like to point out that standups usually (well, always, from my experience) are one leg out and one leg back. The only problems I've seen is when it's a really long leg, like MSP-SLC or CVG-BGR.
One overlooked benefit to standups is that they allow the company to create more productive trips
without reduced rest overnights.
Let's keep the apples and oranges seperate. Reduced rest followed by a 12 hour 6 leg day is one thing, a standup overnight is another.