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Old 04-15-2009 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 300ER Hauler
Guys beat their chests about staying strong and unified, but are WE ready to take a pay cut IF that is what it takes to keep our brothers off the street.
No, we're not...nor should we be willing to take a paycut or open up the contract when the company is making billions in profit per year.

Originally Posted by 300ER Hauler
As far as unions, ask the United and Delta +1% guys how those contracts are treating them now.
Don't even go there man...you don't know what you're talking about.

I was a Delta pilot during that timeframe, and actually lived through the contract negotiations, furloughs, paycuts, pension dump, and abrogation of the contract. If Delta couldn't afford to pay us what they were back then, they wouldn't have signed the contract. That all happened before 9-11 and the economic downturn. We didn't take our horrendous paycuts at Delta until December 2004, after Delta had been bleeding billions of dollars for years. That didn't stop Delta from paying its top executives millions in bonuses and giving former CEO Leo Mullin a suitcase full of cash for his whopping seven years of service, while the pilots saw their pensions flushed down the toilet.

As soon as UPS starts losing money, then we can talk about concessions. Until then, your argument holds no water, and you're sounding more and more like a management plant.
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