Originally Posted by
ERJF15
Yes. NTSB "Sunshine" hearings are always held post investigation. CVR recordings, by law, are not allowed to be released.
The hearing that is taking place next week IS NOT the "sunshine" hearing. Expect that to take place in late '09 or early '10. The "sunshine" hearing is when the NTSB releases their 'probable cause' findings. The upcoming hearing is to gain additional facts....NOTHING MORE. There will be no analysis at the completion of the hearing next week.
Originally Posted by
Justdoinmyjob
No, they are not, but written transcripts of the recordings are. Never say anything in the cockpit that your family and friends won't be embarrassed by.
Correct, the written transcript will be released at approx. 0730 on the 12th. Not before!
Originally Posted by
selcal
so we will never see the transcript?
See above!
Originally Posted by
bryris
This is bad for the legacy of the two pilots. However, it is human nature that someone's got to hang for this.
However, I seriously doubt they weren't trained on a stick pusher. That is a pretty elementary feature of a passenger transport aircraft. Likely they had experience with these (esp the CA) before this aircraft.
Wrong! Very few 121 operators train pilots in 'stick pusher' events. Most, if not all, stall recovery training syllabi teach pilots to recover at 'first indication of stall,' which means at the shaker. As you're probably aware, the shaker only means you're 'approaching' a stalled condition.....but the wings are still flying at that point. I'd imagine many 121 training programs will be changed to include some form of stick pusher recoveries in the future.