Negative ghost rider. Unless American 587(260 fatalities)in NYC, and American 1420(12) in LIT are counted as regionals. Not to mention the almost fatal CAL DEN crash when a highly experienced Captain decided to correct the FO being off centerline with the tiller during the T/O roll. That turned out just wonderful...

 

That is not true. If you have no union you are an at will employee and can be fired for ANYTHING. If you have a union, you are waiving the lawsuit route and can have a disciplinary grievance. At my old company (an American Eagle), they fired a guy for calling in sick too often, making him an "unreliable employee". That tag stuck through the arbitration and I believe stayed fired.

 

Sorry, but since we've had one reporter already, and your profile was quite similar, one has to conclude your one too. I hope your not.

 

I like how our safety guy morgan says we have no more than 3 stand up overnights yet last month two lines had 4 in a row every week. Shows how in touch our management is and also that he doesn't think a 16 hour duty day is too long or unsafe.

 

And the door prize goes to Deltabound for his answer on how to raise wages! Supply=Demand... how do we raise wages, deplete the supply.. How you ask???

STANDARDS... real ones.


How about grades on check rides instead of "pass/fail"?

How many times have you pulled your training partner thru a type rating and at the end even on his checkride you pull him through; the examiner glaring at you not to do anymore, but then he passes?? Me?? guilty.. 3 of 7 initial courses I pulled my partner through on. It's not PC to say, but some people just don't belong in airplanes at a "professional" level (when the poop hits the fan)..

Take someone who's been thru 5-8 aircraft type courses and passed every check ride and every recurrent with nothing close to resembling a marginal performance.. then taken 3 years off from touching any airplane, sim or currency aid... then passed his an initial thereafter in one of the hardest types to get. The military has a lot of people like this after a 20 year career, as do some of us less fortunate pilots with 5 jobs in 12 years... and contrast that same person to someone who's failed every 3rd checkride and all of their initial courses working at ONE employer their entire career (the Colgans, Mesa's and other 250 hour, now CA types we hear all about)... who would you rather fly with?

Well people... BOTH of them are out there flying, so roll the dice!

 

The NTSB stated yesterday, on the record as part of the Colgan hearings, that seven of the last eight investigations they have been involved with have been with "regional carriers".

That is likely what 'seven6' is referring to.

I don't think anyone would say that 'regionals' are up to the same standard as majors/mainline: more resources, better safety culture, more experienced crews, and even safer destinations (radar environments, precision approaches, etc) - a major is a better operation.

Hopefully industry and unions will remember that 'one level of safety' is not just a 'cargo' and 'passenger' thing, but is also something that should be seen as applicable to the various levels of passenger carriers. All could use improving, though. There is never a perfect operation.