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NinerKilo 05-06-2009 08:01 PM

Colgan 3407 NTSB Hearings
 
Just saw this article posted on the Washington Post.

washingtonpost.com

Just from their mention of training issues on the Q400 to possible violations of the sterile cockpit regulations, I don't think things are looking too good.

Purpleanga 05-06-2009 08:12 PM

This is not good for colgan. Some pretty bad stuff on there if it's true. Come to think of it the FO sounded like she came off a joke before they transferred to the tower.

ExperimentalAB 05-06-2009 09:32 PM

This isn't good for any of us...but mostly Colgan. They have a transcript public yet?

TPROP4ever 05-06-2009 09:38 PM

Transcript of the hearing, investigation or the CVR recording?

NinerKilo 05-07-2009 09:07 AM

I think experimental meant the CVR. I don't think the CVR transcript has been released yet.

Are public NTSB hearings like this common for serious airline accidents such as this crash?

ERJF15 05-07-2009 09:33 AM


Originally Posted by NinerKilo (Post 606714)
I think experimental meant the CVR. I don't think the CVR transcript has been released yet.

Are public NTSB hearings like this common for serious airline accidents such as this crash?



Yes. NTSB "Sunshine" hearings are always held post investigation. CVR recordings, by law, are not allowed to be released.

Justdoinmyjob 05-07-2009 11:34 AM


Originally Posted by ERJF15 (Post 606724)
Yes. NTSB "Sunshine" hearings are always held post investigation. CVR recordings, by law, are not allowed to be released.

No, they are not, but written transcripts of the recordings are. Never say anything in the cockpit that your family and friends won't be embarrassed by.

cessna157 05-07-2009 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 606760)
No, they are not, but written transcripts of the recordings are. Never say anything in the cockpit that your family and friends won't be embarrassed by.


Wait, what? Are you saying CVR recordings and/or transcripts are not permitted to be released?

There are hundreds of CVR recordings and transcripts, as well as ATC recordings and transcripts, that have been released into the public domain.

selcal 05-07-2009 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 606760)
No, they are not, but written transcripts of the recordings are. Never say anything in the cockpit that your family and friends won't be embarrassed by.

so we will never see the transcript?

skywatch 05-07-2009 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by selcal (Post 606766)
so we will never see the transcript?

CVR transcripts are ALWAYS released. ATC recordings and transcripts are usually released. By law, CVR recordings are not supposed to be released, but you can find some older recordings on the internet.


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