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05-06-2009, 08:01 PM

NinerKilo

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Colgan 3407 NTSB Hearings

Just saw this article posted on the Washington Post.

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Just from their mention of training issues on the Q400 to possible violations of the sterile cockpit regulations, I don't think things are looking too good.

05-06-2009, 08:12 PM

Purpleanga

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This is not good for colgan. Some pretty bad stuff on there if it's true. Come to think of it the FO sounded like she came off a joke before they transferred to the tower.

05-06-2009, 09:32 PM

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This isn't good for any of us...but mostly Colgan. They have a transcript public yet?

05-06-2009, 09:38 PM

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Transcript of the hearing, investigation or the CVR recording?

05-07-2009, 09:07 AM

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I think experimental meant the CVR. I don't think the CVR transcript has been released yet.

Are public NTSB hearings like this common for serious airline accidents such as this crash?

05-07-2009, 09:33 AM

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I think experimental meant the CVR. I don't think the CVR transcript has been released yet.

Are public NTSB hearings like this common for serious airline accidents such as this crash?

Yes. NTSB "Sunshine" hearings are always held post investigation. CVR recordings, by law, are not allowed to be released.

05-07-2009, 11:34 AM

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Yes. NTSB "Sunshine" hearings are always held post investigation. CVR recordings, by law, are not allowed to be released.

No, they are not, but written transcripts of the recordings are. Never say anything in the cockpit that your family and friends won't be embarrassed by.

05-07-2009, 11:43 AM

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No, they are not, but written transcripts of the recordings are. Never say anything in the cockpit that your family and friends won't be embarrassed by.

Wait, what? Are you saying CVR recordings and/or transcripts are not permitted to be released?

There are hundreds of CVR recordings and transcripts, as well as ATC recordings and transcripts, that have been released into the public domain.

05-07-2009, 11:43 AM

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No, they are not, but written transcripts of the recordings are. Never say anything in the cockpit that your family and friends won't be embarrassed by.

so we will never see the transcript?

05-07-2009, 11:47 AM

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so we will never see the transcript?

CVR transcripts are ALWAYS released. ATC recordings and transcripts are usually released. By law, CVR recordings are not supposed to be released, but you can find some older recordings on the internet.