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Old 05-07-2009 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by The dude
I don't think stalling a part 121 passenger carrying turbo prop is a "mistake". A mistake is dialing a wrong frequency, a wrong inbound course, a missed fix in a flight plan etc...

I think the issue is the airlines' (especially the regionals) tendency to push people through training who don't have the necessary stick and rudder and/or judgment skills to safely operate a complex aircraft. I've seen it with my own eyes numerous times as a former regional guy.

I'm not necessarily saying this particular crew was skill-deficient, but the scenario does point that direction.
Not to get in to who's wrong or right but there are numerous "accidents" which you can make this comment about, including 135, and part 91. Over the years we've seen gulfstreams crash on approach into aspen and lear jets hit hills in greenland, and Challengers run off icy runways on take off. To have the attitude that mistakes don't happen or that a mistake can only be a wrong frequency is pretty harsh. Just dialing in the wrong NDB freq and thinking that it is the right one can be the very key in the chain of events that lead to a crash. I have to side with Cruise on this one that we as professional aviators don't train for real world scenerios most of the time in the sim and this needs to change. Had you been in the same situation can you really say that you would have done anything different who knows? I'm not saying that we should turn our heads and act as if this didn't happen but don't bash the crew as if they weren't trained to the same standard you or I were.
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